Are men aware of their condition? Re-blogged from Cherryblossomlife

I would like if I may, to take you on a strange journey (sorry, just had to), read this post by cherryblossomlife, about the genetic inferiority of the male of the human species. This provides us with answers to the eternal women’s question: “What the hell is wrong with men??”

This post made a light bulb come on for me, and that has not happened since I discovered Twisty and I Blame The Patriarchy back in 2006. Women are the true default human beings and men truly are our natural predators. We have always known this deep down.

Where to begin?

I think it’s important to begin a post like this by providing some context. You can’t just ask, “Are men aware of their condition?” and then simply proceed to discuss said condition, especially when men are reading. You need to offer some background so that people know where you’re coming from; so the post can’t be distorted; so nobody can play ignorant.

How about a list of atrocities then?

But if we go there eyes begin to glaze over… It has become mundane. Male violence is mundane. The torture, pain and death of women is a trivial banality.

Well, a light discussion on porn, perhaps?

How about the current trafficking of women into the slave trade?

The rampant environmental destruction?

The pollution of the entire food chain?

The unnecessary experimenting on animals?

Or maybe a chat about war? Hiroshima and Nagasaki, perhaps?

The massacre of the the Russians by Stalin, the Chinese by Mao, the Cambodians by Pol Pot?

Or let’s talk about men who chose not to massacre their own people, and opted instead for the people next door. The Japanese in South East Asia, the Americans in Vietnam (or on their own doorstep– the native Americans), the British in Australia etc etc ad nauseum…

Then again, maybe individual atrocities would have more impact. Take, for example, the Australian man who killed his four year old daughter by throwing her off a bridge to her death to spite his ex-wife…

At any rate, all roads lead to one point, which is the burning times.

For those readers who may not know, men systematically massacred over nine million women over the course of many centuries, and then pretended it didn’t happen. So clearly, we’re not talking about institutionalized misogyny here. This is not “sexism“, or “woman-hating”. What men have done, and continue to do to women is, I believe, the inevitable result of some pathology in their genetic make-up. The violence they commit is inevitable. They were born that way, and were born to do it. This we must accept.

Let’s look at the Y chromosome, because this is where the answer lies.

The Y chromosome is inferior to the X. It contains 78 working genes, compared to approximately 1,500 working genes on the X chromosome. As the Y passes from father to son, mutations accumulate slowly over the generations. Scientists are researching the decline of the Y with great frenzy at the moment. Take, for example this recent study on some families in a Chinese village:

“Having identified 23 candidate SNPs — or single letter changes in the DNA — they amplified the regions containing these candidates and checked the sequences using the standard Sanger method. A total of four naturally occurring mutations were confirmed. Knowing this number of mutations, the length of the area that they had searched and the number of generations separating the individuals, the team were able to calculate the rate of mutation.

“These four mutations gave us the exact mutation rate — one in 30 million nucleotides each generation — that we had expected,” says the study’s coordinator, Chris Tyler-Smith, also from The Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute. “This was reassuring because the methods we used — harnessing next-generation sequencing technology — had not previously been tested for this kind of research.”

What this means is that with each generation, males are becoming genetically more inferior to females.

“Once upon a time, the Y sex chromosome looked much the same as the X sex chromosome. Both were X shaped, and matched up neatly. Like our other pairs of chromosomes, the two sex chromosomes exchanged genes as necessary to repair DNA and avoid harmful mutations.

Then something went badly wrong. Around 166 million years ago, a huge chunk of the Y chromosome in one of our mammalian ancestors was turned upside down and reinserted. The change was so extreme that the Y chromosome no longer matched the X, and it became impossible for the two to swap genes. The Y chromosome began collecting mutations and losing genes, ultimately taking on its characteristic Y shape as a result.

In humans, it now carries a mere 19 of the 800 genes it originally shared with the X. Given that rate of loss, some geneticists have predicted that the chromosome will lose its final gene in 4.6 million years.” (New Scientist)

Men are loathe to admit it. Despite the evidence staring them in the face, they are apparently in denial.

Female longevity is not an accident. The Y chromosome is faulty, whereas the X is full of life-preserving properties. Take color blindness . This genetic fault manifests only in males, because females have their second X as a back up (kind of like having a second kidney in case one fails). Almost all intersex babies are male but doctors pretend they’re female. The only intersex people who are female are those with Turner syndrome. Wiki says “Turner syndrome only affects females” but this is not exactly true. Turner syndrome babies are born without an X. Males who would have been born with Turner syndrome are probably miscarried early on. They die because there are no genes in the Y to preserve life. Whereas if a foetus is female, they have their second X as a back up, and are therefore born alive. So it is not a “female” condition per se. What actually happens is that only females survive.

So while the Y gets more faulty with each generation,the X has remained almost as pure as it was millions of years ago, meaning that females are far more biologically resilient than males. That’s because females, not males, are the original prototype for humankind.

Mary Daly was fascinated by men’s obsession with DNA and cloning, and she realised it was because male scientists are well aware of the faultiness of the Y. She perceived that they were striving to change their fate before time runs out, before the Y has deteriorated to the point of no return, perhaps.

From page 217 of Quintessence:

“Radical Elemental Feminsts naturally push the question of the purpose of biotechnology further. We begin by asking: Why the accelerated, frenzied activity of geneticists in recent years? In case the Haggard Searcher doesn’t already have a clear idea of the probable motivation for this sense of urgency, she can find clues in an article that appeared on the front page of The New York Times on March 15 1997. The article states that at some point in the distant past the Y chromosome’s genes became obsolescent. As a result the Y shed them and consequently grew shorter and shorter:

Its shrinkage seems likely to continue, to the vanishing point. But geneticists are not yet declaring men candidates for the endangered-species list. They believe a different mechanism of sex determination will eventually evolve, maybe with a single X causing maleness, or with the male-determining gene jumping to a new pair of chromosomes and the story of X and Y starting all over.”

The article goes on to describe the Y chromosome as “unstable and flighty” and to acknowledge the X chromosome’s evolutionary stability. This material may be anxiety-producing (de-stabilizing?) for flighty male scientists, causing them to feel impelled to find ” a different mechanism of sex determination,” that is, to seize control of biological evolution by gene manipulation before the vanishing point arrives.

The news has been out for some time that males have a genetic deficiency. It simply has not been allowed to spread…. Ashley Montague wrote, “There seems to be a conspiracy of silence on the subject of the superiority of women.”

All radical feminist theory and analysis leads to these questions.

I’ve been given permission to quote a comment by the brilliant WitchWind, which was sent to me via e-mail, and was originally intended to be a comment on a post at femonade. When I first read it, I have to admit I did a double take. It was as though I was censoring my thoughts. I felt I was committing ”thoughtcrime” and it felt frightening. I believe that the only reason Witchwhind herself did not censor her own thoughts was because her comment was not supposed to go public. The fact it was sent privately and was never meant for public viewing is the reason she managed to let go and ask all of the important questions, the ones that are the holy grail of radical feminism.

Before you read it, let’s put the idea of “thoughtcrime” into context. Men are right now torturing women, and are proud of it. We have access to photographic evidence of their exploits everywhere online in the form of pornography, the fully legitimized political torture of an opressed group. They are actually hurting women as we speak, actually causing physical pain to them, getting off on women’s tears and bloodshed. By contrast, what you are about to read is words. Nothing but words. Do not allow patriarchal propaganda convince you that words on a page, and torture, are one and the same.

I would like to express how the knowledge of men being innately violent + a mutation has affected me in my everyday life. I knew that male violence was related to male biology for a year 1/2 maybe? (in that only men could be violent in that way and create a patriarchy) but when I read Sonia Johnson’s book where she explained how men were a mutation, this changed my sentiment to men. At first I was really happy to find this out because it made complete sense, in many ways (too long to explain though). It comforted me in ignoring men and acting as if only women existed, and focusing on creating safe women-only spaces. But something I never felt before, I started to feel sorrow for their state. It annoys me because I have never felt sorry for men before, only contempt, or ignorance at best. I look at them and I imagine what it would be like, knowing somewhere, deep down, that you are flawed, a mistake, and that your are dead, or not fully human, or inherently destructive, and if I knew that, I would probably kill myself. To imagine feeling this made me feel sorry. Do they know it? Or do they not fully understand it? All these efforts in making women believe we are aliens, non-human, naturally and internally flawed, walking defects => this is them projecting on us. They must know on some level they are flawed, but do they experience emotional pain from it? Do they feel emotions at all, or do they just pretend to? To which extent? Are they aware of their condition somehow?

The thing is, if I treat them as mutants, what’s stopping us from killing them? Empathy? Fear? Fear of hurting ourselves, or that it will destroy our soul to do so, because being violent to someone means cutting yourself from emotions, therefore being more dead inside? Would it be bad to kill them all? To what degree does violence affect them or not? Can they only be affected by violence, and nothing else? Do they only understand violence? How does this affect our actions and decisions to take power away from them?
Also, I just realised yesterday that no man is part of me, and that litterally, I don’t have a dad, no woman has! I just understood the meaning of having the genes from my mother and my paternal grandmother. Only women are my people. Men do not exist within me and I have no father. My father is not my father but he is no-one. This may sound odd but it just struck me. And at the same time, it made me feel sorry for him. And the story Sonia tells in her book sisterwitch really resonated in me, when she explains that women felt sorry for those feeble beings and tried to feed them. Obviously I would never do that but it’s just strange to feel this. This is not a political statement, just to share the effect the knowledge has on me and I’m still processing the conclusions to be made from it in everyday life interactions with men. Perhaps it’s trauma bonding. Or over developed empathy towards dominants. How has this knowledge changed your sentiments towards men, or way of interacting with them, if at all? Other than female separatism, are there some conclusions you have made in your lives based on this knowledge?
To which I replied:

What you were saying about no woman having a dad, I’ve been going there with my own thoughts recently as well, stemming from my experiences with my own father, and the way that my husband is with my children. They’re not his kids. They don’t have a father. He might regard them as a appendages: get a wife, get a house, get some kids, and in that sense they’re his and belong to him, but other than that, he’s just an alien in the home. He helps out a lot with the kids, which I used to appreciate, but now I realise it’s another form of dominance, of trying to take over in the home and piss all over the place, leaving his mark. I’ve also realised that my 6 year old daughter humours him. How much mental energy is this taking out of her?? She certainly does not humour me, LOL! It’s no holds barred when it comes to telling me exactly what she thinks of me at any particular given moment.
To answer your question about whether men experience emotional pain. I have a lot of brothers, have had various relationships with men and I’ve concluded that when they’re children they feel pain and are as close to female (i.e human) they’re ever going to be. But once they hit puberty they no longer feel emotions. They know that women do and “other” us for it. My husband was putting on one big fat act while we were “courting” before marriage. This has blown me away. If I wasn’t in such a vulnerable situation (in a foreign country with kids) he would have had to carry on with the act throughout our relationship, as almost all men do. But because he didn’t have to bother he practically dropped the act as soon as the ring was on my finger.
And she commented further:
Yes it’s interesting that you talk about your brothers because the other day I made the same comment to myself, as I was at my grandmother’s house looking at my family photos and when they were 3, 4 years old they actually looked human, had human expressions, you can see it in their eyes. But now, They’re lost, they lost capacity to emphathise. Puberty *is* the turning point.
However, I do very much believe that men experience one particular emotion very strongly— self-pity. I concur with the author of the following (taken from no pomo tumblr, author uknown)
“Oh, they have toes, but the only feeling men have I’ve witnessed is self-pity. They have a lot of instincts like territoriality, protect your turf or woman, whatever they think they own– but I don’t call ball ingredients like testosterone, feelings or emotions. So isn’t it curious that you can’t even get most lesbians to say they’re man-haters? Instead they say, “Oh I don’t really hate men, now that I’m a lesbian, I never have to be around any. They just don’t affect my life anymore.’ This is what I call the lesbian false consciousness. When don’t we have to be around men? Don’t we ever walk the streets, buy groceries, deal with some patriarchal bureaurcracy, ride subways, trains or drive cars, see police, repairmen, don’t men live in our buildings in the cities or live around you in the country? If you work, aren’t there men around supervising you? If you’re in school, don’t you have any men teachers or have to sit with men in class? If you go to a hospital, aren’t there any men doctors or patients around? The lesbian answer is, “Oh, those; well I never pay any attention to them.” Take a good look next time you’re in what they call public which means man’s world; look at those men you don’t know and dig on how much attention your body and mind pay to trying avoid paying any attention to pigs, who are paying a lot of attention to you making sounds to scare you, stepping in your way or not moving so you have to walk around them or yield to their right of way…. Even the most down and out bum in New York has a whole repertoire of intimidation numbers to pull on women. No matter how far down you go in the prick hierarchy, every prick knows how to corner a woman, make her feel unsafe. And they all do it every day, even your good daddies and your shy brothers who never told you what they do to the women they don’t know.”
And while we’re on the subject of men’s primary emotion being self-pity, and not much else, I’d like to quote a woman from a forum called SAAFE, which is where prostituted women gather to support each other and share techniques on how best to survive. I find it interesting to read their comments because these women know men better than any other group of women on earth. One woman there asked a question on how best to deal with a manipulative and boundary-pushing client. The idea was thrown around that maybe he had developed feelings for her, that he had fallen fall her, perhaps, whereupon another woman replied:
“The bright side of this situation is that this guy has been an absolute poster-child for what to AVOID AT ALL COSTS from any client. If you wrote out a big, bullet-pointed list of his behaviours, as outlined by yourself above, and pinned it up on your wall somewhere, you could check it regularly and make sure to NEVER EVER see anyone who does ANY of those things, and then you’d be safe from 90% of the unpleasant types straight away! It’s a tough lesson to learn in life – that there are people out there who will treat you like an idiot, and will take everything they can from you without even a split-second’s doubt or empathy about what they’re doing – when you’re a decent human being yourself, but it’s important to learn quickly. These mini-psychopaths, as I think of them, are sadly common and are usually really good at toying with emotions (i.e. this guy, trying to make you feel like you owe him something because of his “feelings” for you, when I would actually bet $10,000 right now that he’s never had a genuine feeling in his life apart from self-pity because he can’t get enough attention from ladies without playing these sorts of absurd games with prostitutes) so please don’t feel like you need to feel sorry for him even one second longer. He’s having a right jolly old game with you.There is no limit to the effort he will put into his boundary-pushing with you so I wouldn’t ever see him again. Cut off contact”
And if anyone knows about how men tick, it’s prostituted women. They need to, or they wouldn’t survive.
And BAM, there you have it. A prostituted woman reaches exactly the same conclusion as a lesbian separatist. That tells us something.
Now let’s end with a bit of Guardian:
“In the end, males are uncertain little creatures and the way they are made is very different in mammals, birds, insects and worms,” said Steve Jones, author of the book Y: The Descent of Man and professor of genetics at University College London.

“In the long term we are all dead, and that is certainly going to be true for the Y chromosome, which is rather an arriviste on the evolutionary scene. It may take a long time, but I am pretty confident that the Y machine will, one day, be replaced by something else. Quite what that will be, you will have to ask me in a hundred million years.”

“The question is, is the human Y chromosome hanging off a cliff edge and about to fall, or stood on a ledge and happy to stay there forever? Realistically, we won’t nail it without a crystal ball,” said Griffin.

“Everyone agrees that the demise of the Y chromosome, if it happens, does not mean the demise of the human male. All that will happen is that the process of sex chromosome evolution will start again.”

Griffin, who posed the question of the Y chromosome’s future to the conference in Manchester, later asked men and women to vote on the issue separately. When asked for a show of hands on the Y chromosome going extinct, women outvoted men two to one. When asked who thought the Y chromosome would survive, men outvoted women by the same margin.” Guardian, 2012

To conclude, I believe men do have an inkling of their condition. The world they have created is a living manifestation of this knowledge.Nature is on the side of females. We’re nature’s best, which is probably another reason why men hate us so much, and patriarchy promulgates lies about it, and constantly reverses the truth. The most absurd concept of all is the idea that there is a male God in the sky, who is the source of all life, who created Adam in his own image as the original prototype, with Eve as an add-on. Nature knows this is a reversal. It is males who are the add-ons to the species. They protest too much. They know, they know, they know.

3 thoughts on “Are men aware of their condition? Re-blogged from Cherryblossomlife

  1. Sandra says:

    Wonderful post and link. I’ve forever felt this way. My laptop died weeks ago. I’ve been trying to retrieve the Radfem Hub since lappy’s demise as I had it in favourites. It seems to have disappeared without a trace. Tell me it isn’t so? Tell me I’m just such a luddite that I’m failing a simple google search.

  2. Linda Radfem says:

    Hi Sandra, yeah the site has gone but it will be back somewheer at some point so I’ll make an announcement when that happens.

  3. iorarua says:

    Yes, fascinating post. All this destructive and predatory behaviour common to the male of so many species is deemed (via male-centric perspectives) essential to our survival. Yet it’s the very same behaviour that continually threatens our survival and creates harsh social systems that make life much more difficult than it needs to be.

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